[Openroad-users] OpenROAD 2006 : New Workbench GUI Rant.

Thu Mar 15 03:01:19 EST 2007

I have not been able to use this new version - we are routed in 4.1 - I 
would say that a minor enhancement might be to be able to colour the 
background of the workbench for different connections/applications - I do 
this all the time in reflections - many a time a different coloured 
background has saved a slip up. 

Allan

"Kim Ginnerup" <kgi at bording.dk> 
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14/03/2007 15:39
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I have used the new workbench for some time now.
At first I found it very difficult and I still get lost sometimes to find 
what I want.
I'm not sure if the problems are because I'm used to the old one, or it 
simply is because the new one is not intuitive enough.
The old one is not intuitive but with time you learn.
I think there are a lot of good things in the new workbench, but I also 
think it has a long way to go before it works as you would expect.
1. I am beginning to use right click a lot, and gets frustrated when the 
options I expect to see is missing.
I miss import and New(Create)
2. I do not like the one top toolbar fits everything.
I like self contained portlets with its own functions.
3. I do not like the "everything can be done from here style" IDE's, like 
Eclipse and Visual Studio and partly the new workbench. I guess most 
projects that reach a certain size needs lots of commandline stuff to 
automate build, packages, patches, ...
4. I do not like for example that I have to open, change, save & close 
application properties. I have just clicked on that tab that should be 
enough. So select the tab do the changes leave the tab. I think the Open 
for edit, edit, save or save&close is unnecessary. I like modeless frames 
Not like this where you switch between edit and view. This is to much like 
old VI style editing.
5 A global toolbar is for global stuff. So why do I have a connect to 
database button, when it only works in the connect tab.

There are a lot of small nitty gritty details that should be looked at.
And this mail my come out a bit to the negative side. That is not my 
intention. I think the new workbench is a step in the right direction, but 
it is not there yet. 

Actually I would have liked to see a new Editor instead of a new 
workbench.

Kim

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Emne: Re: [Openroad-users] OpenROAD 2006 : New Workbench GUI Rant.

I had a few problems with it too, so stuck with the classic view for
now.

It's on the back-burner, of, when I get time I'll have a quick play.
(along with plenty of other things, mClient, app server etc etc etc...) 

Cheers,
Gareth Edwards

BT Global Services 
tel: +44 (0)131 345 4671 
email: gareth.2.edwards at bt.com

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[mailto:openroad-users-bounces at peerlessit.com] On Behalf Of Adrian
Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 1:45 PM
To: 'International OpenROAD Users'
Subject: [Openroad-users] OpenROAD 2006 : New Workbench GUI Rant.

Hi,

Are any of you using the new Workbench?

Or have you stuck with the classic view?

I've had a quick go this morning, and it's not floating my boat.

To start with:

Not really sure when I've connected to a new application database. 
Cannot resize the development window.
Cannot get rid of the Component details subwindow.
Cannot set qep / printqry from the DBsession in the Query monitor
facility to make output appear in the trace window.
    E_US09C4 Syntax error on line 1.  Last symbol read was: 'set
printqry'.
        (Wed Mar 14 12:28:21 2007)
Cannot find the break on next control.

If anyone else has found some obvious annoyances and or solutions then
please post.

If I get the debugger going then perhaps I can have a rant about the
fact I can't copy and paste variable names / content from the Watcher
frame in the debugger. (That's the case in classic mode anyway)

Regards,

Adrian

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