[Openroad-users] OpenROAD IDE

Antill, Jim jantill at revenue.ie
Sat Mar 17 00:38:18 EST 2007


Hi,

I don't really see the point of that....

We communicate using this usergroup as it's a friendly place to discuss
ideas, ask for advice etc. I don't see how using a "more modern" method of
communication would change the content of the discussions anyway. And if the
discussion (which I find interesting) is turgid why are you interested in it
being on the forum?

Anyway, OpenROAD has maybe fallen behind the times compared to other tools
because it hasn't been developed recently, not because the people that use it
(or develop it) are living in the 20th century. It's IngresCorp who control
the development of OpenROAD, not us people that use it. They have been given
feedback, ideas etc. on things that would be good to put in it etc. 

So, ultimately, I think it's really up to Ingres as to how "behind-the-times"
OpenROAD remains.

Regards,
Jim


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Subject: [Openroad-users] OpenROAD IDE


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Guys,

I am just a simple old (67 next birthday) developer who has been in this
industry since 1962. I have used almost all the popular languages and IDEs on
most major platforms and still use the more common ones.

I ask a couple of questions.

I have tried to update my skills and mindset over the years, why have not
you? Development languages, techniques and IDEs have become  a religious
issue with many people, particularly the anti-Microsoft set which seems to
include many of you! (I use OpenSource stuff heavily, as well as Microsoft)

Number one, why are you still using this old email-based system when Ingres
has a new forum for OpenROAD users that is directly moderated by Ingres? Many
of you have been asking for this for ages but now that it is here, all this
turgid discussion over the OpenROAD IDE is not in there and you use a 1990s
system for communication (sorry Paul)!

I do not like OpenROAD very much any more in contrast to its competitors. It
used to be ahead of its time but I feel that it is rapidly falling by the
wayside because its major practioners remain in the 20th century. Ingres IS
advancing - its .NET V2 interface is great, its ECLIPSE integration is very
good for a first implementation. Its involvement with BEA, Novell etc is
promising. It is only OpenROAD that seems to be behind and I suspect that is
only because the community is also behind the times!

I won't continue the rant here, as I think the whole thing is more
appropriately discussed in the Ingres OpenROAD Users' forum, which is at
least using modern technology to help us developers.

Rant over



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