[Openroad-users] OpenROAD IDE

[Kim Ginnerup]

This means that you have been in this industry for 45 Years, I am impressed.

I am not anti one or the other IDE's, but I do have an opinion.
I think that MS Visual Studio has one of the best editors on the market.
But I find the wrapping in Visual Studio a bit too much.
I have done simple stuff in MS Visual Studio and c#.
When it comes to making a windows program I sit and look at the c# code and the form integration, and conclude that I could have done the same program in OpenROAD in a fraction of time and amount of code.
You can say the same for Eclipse and Java with an even bigger margin.
So even though OpenROAD lack some features and the IDE is not near as feature rich I can still get the job done faster.
In the end I think that is what it is all about. How can I provide my customers with solutions fast and to a decent price.
We use Java and Microsoft as well as OpenROAD.
I find it depressing to see how much time spent in these none OpenROAD projects. Of course there are web related and server related stuff that cannot be done easily in OpenROAD. I am not saying that OpenROAD is a one size fits all - but close ;-) 

I agree that we shall support the new Community site.
It makes us and OpenROAD more visible than this very good mailing list.
Maybe there is a way at the site to get a mail when a subject is updated.
I don't know.

Kim
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Fra: openroad-users-bounces at peerlessit.com [mailto:openroad-users-bounces at peerlessit.com] På vegne af Eric.whitchurch at myworkplace.com.au
Sendt: 16. marts 2007 13:44
Til: openroad-users at peerlessit.com
Emne: [Openroad-users] OpenROAD IDE

Guys,

I am just a simple old (67 next birthday) developer who has been in this industry since 1962. I have used almost all the popular languages and IDEs on most major platforms and still use the more common ones.

I ask a couple of questions.

I have tried to update my skills and mindset over the years, why have not you? Development languages, techniques and IDEs have become  a religious issue with many people, particularly the anti-Microsoft set which seems to include many of you! (I use OpenSource stuff heavily, as well as Microsoft)

Number one, why are you still using this old email-based system when Ingres has a new forum for OpenROAD users that is directly moderated by Ingres? Many of you have been asking for this for ages but now that it is here, all this turgid discussion over the OpenROAD IDE is not in there and you use a 1990s system for communication (sorry Paul)!

I do not like OpenROAD very much any more in contrast to its competitors. It used to be ahead of its time but I feel that it is rapidly falling by the wayside because its major practioners remain in the 20th century. Ingres IS advancing - its .NET V2 interface is great, its ECLIPSE integration is very good for a first implementation. Its involvement with BEA, Novell etc is promising. It is only OpenROAD that seems to be behind and I suspect that is only because the community is also behind the times!

I won't continue the rant here, as I think the whole thing is more appropriately discussed in the Ingres OpenROAD Users' forum, which is at least using modern technology to help us developers.

Rant over